ZitatOriginal geschrieben von saintsimon
Die New York Times hat die Hintergründe des Shutdowns ausgeleuchtet. Wie so oft, sind mal wieder die Gebrüder Koch mit ihren Öl-Milliarden am zündeln:
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Dachte schon, dass die Koch-Brothers gar nicht mehr erwähnt werden.
Habe aber auch jemanden anzubieten:
George Soros 
ZitatOriginal geschrieben von pithein
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Naja, wer ist nicht kompromissbereit? Doch auch der Präsident...
Weist Du überhaupt, was Sache ist? Allein im letzten halben Jahr wurden mögliche Verhandlungen im Senat von den Republikanern abgeblockt
http://www.nationaljournal.com…fid=LeadStoryTiles_medium
" ... For instance, through a Senate Democratic aide, here are all the times since this spring Senate Democrats tried to negotiate with Republicans by sending their budget to a bicameral conference committee. Every time, Republicans blocked the move:
1. 4/23 Senator Reid requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Toomey blocked.
2. 5/6 Senator Reid requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Cruz blocked.
3. 5/7 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.
4. 5/8 Senator Warner asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.
5. 5/9 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.
6. 5/14 Senator Warner asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator McConnell blocked.
7. 5/15 Senator Wyden asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator McConnell blocked.
8. 5/16 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Lee blocked.
9. 5/21 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Paul blocked.
10. 5/22 Senator Kaine asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Rubio blocked.
11. 5/23 Senator McCaskill asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Lee blocked.
12. 6/4 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Rubio blocked.
13. 6/12 Senator Kaine asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Lee blocked.
14. 6/19 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, and Senator Toomey blocked.
15. 6/26 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Cruz blocked.
16. 7/11 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Marco Rubio blocked.
17. 7/17 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Mike Lee blocked.
18. 8/1 Senator Durbin requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Marco Rubio blocked.
19. 10/2 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Toomey blocked.
"For six months I've tried to enter into formal budget negotiations with Paul Ryan, only to be repeatedly denied permission to negotiate by Ted Cruz and the tea party," said Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray, D-Wash. "Now, a week into a government shutdown that he could end at a moment's notice, Speaker Boehner is simply trying to distract from his constantly changing list of demands." ..."
Und Boehner hat für "Verhandlungen" seinerseits nichts anzubieten:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…-to-negotiate-with-obama/
"... Stephanopoulos also asked Boehner what concessions Republicans would be willing to make in this “negotiation” he’s requesting. Boehner couldn’t name any, and indeed, he even ruled out conceding anything on new revenues. ..."
ZitatOriginal geschrieben von pithein
Dann hast du meinen weiter oben stehenden Link ja gelesen.
Daraus lese ich, dass die Demokraten "zur Zeit" blockieren, siehe:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/n…s-blackmail-offer-separat
Du hast natürlich als Quelle gleich eine Kampangnenseite der Republikaner inklusive deren vorgegebener Sprachregelung geliefert. Sehr seriös ...
So, das ist ja nun wieder Kinderkram. Natürlich "blockiert" auch der Präsident. Bisher sehe ich keine Bereitschaft von beiden Seiten, das Thema ernsthaft angehen zu wollen. Ist wohl noch zu früh und so wie es aussieht, wird es dießes Mal sowieso einen speziellen Weg geben:
"As I type this, the US government shutdown is now exactly a week old. To put things in perspective there have been 17 previous shutdowns through history and this is now the 8th longest - the average being 6.47 days. There continues to be a lack of obvious progress with Speaker Boehner refusing to back down on the budget and debt ceiling discussions without concessions from the President. On the other side the director of the President’s National Economic Council Gene Sperling has suggested that the President will not negotiate with any faction using the threat of default to force policy change. On top of this polling continues to throw out mixed messages which can be used by either side to support their case - a recent CBS poll placed disapproval of congressional Republicans at 72% (vs Obama and congressional Democrats at 61%) whilst in the same poll 55% of responders said they believed the debt ceiling should be raised but with spending cuts. The latter stat gives Boehner some legitimacy in maintaining his stance.
DB’s Frank Kelly yesterday pointed to one possible source of hope in prominent Democrat Senator Chuck Schumer comments over the weekend that he’d been approached by Republican senators to work on a resolution to the impasse, possibly with a tax or entitlement reform deal. The hope being that a deal could be agreed on the side without either Obama or Boehner needing to lose face and back down. So one worth watching.
There was a small bounce in risk in the second half of the US session after reports surfaced that Senate Democrats could introduce legislation today that would give President Obama the authority to raise the debt ceiling for one-year, unless two-thirds of Congress disapproved. Reports suggest that more Republicans would be willing to vote for a bill of this type as it would not require a direct vote to raise the debt ceiling."
Quelle: Deuba
Jimmi Kimmel läßt in einem Videobeitrag Leute auf der Straße darüber befragen, ob Sie Obamacare oder den Affordable Care Act favorisieren. Das Stimmungsbild der Interviews macht mich doch ein wenig nachdenklich.
ZitatOriginal geschrieben von saintsimon
Du hast natürlich als Quelle gleich eine Kampangnenseite der Republikaner inklusive deren vorgegebener Sprachregelung geliefert. Sehr seriös ...
Was bringst Du denn an Quellen? New York Times? *lach* Sehr ausgewogen...
Und by the way:
MRC würde es nicht geben, wenn die NYT oder andere Medien nicht dauernd Obamas Talking Points wiederholen würden.
Da sie das bis zum Exzess machen braucht es jemanden, der dieses Treiben offen legt.
Scheinbar werden ja wirklich nur "unwichtige" Behörden von Shutdown betroffen:
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